Per mara on the CA question: outside all-local this is an ops problem, and what is missing is documentation rather than machinery. One row per secret, read against three topologies, because the same credential is generated in place on one and handed over by an operator on another. sso.md's table is replaced by a pointer -- two tables listing the same secrets would drift, and its prose about why a secret is generated in-container is the half worth keeping there. States the constraint the whole thing rests on: a hive CA is name- constrained to the hive domain and a swarm service name is a sibling of it, so a hive CA cannot issue a swarm-service certificate at all. That is why placing the swarm root is an operations decision.
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Swarm secrets: what exists, and where each one lives
A swarm's credentials are generated in three different places and read in a fourth, so "where does this file go" has a different answer per deployment. This page is that answer, one row per secret.
Two rules run through all of it.
A secret is a path, never a value. Every option that carries a credential
takes a file path (*File), because a literal written into a nix expression is
rendered into the nix store — which is world-readable and permanent. There is no
option anywhere in this tree that accepts a secret inline, and adding one would
be a leak rather than a convenience.
The generator and the reader are usually in different containers. They share
the host's network namespace, which makes them feel co-located, but their
filesystem roots are separate. That is why delivery is a host-side copy rather
than a bind mount: nixos-container refuses to start when a bind source is
missing, and a secret minted on another container's first boot does not exist
yet. Binding it would make one container wait on a file that waits on a
container that starts after it.
The three topologies
Every row below is read against one of these.
| topology | what it means | who places secrets |
|---|---|---|
| all-local | one host runs the swarm's shared services and its own hive | nobody — each secret is generated where it is read, or copied by a host unit |
| swarm-managed | the swarm's services run on a host with swarmctl |
swarmctl writes what it owns; the rest is still generated in place |
| hive elsewhere | a hive that federates with a swarm it does not host | the operator provides the file and names it in config |
Swarm-level — one of each per swarm
| secret | generated by | lives at | hive elsewhere |
|---|---|---|---|
| swarm root CA cert | swarm-ca.nix first-boot unit, when autoConfigure is set |
/var/lib/swarm-ca/root.pem |
operator copies the cert in; it is public |
| swarm root CA key | same unit | /var/lib/swarm-ca/root-key.pem, 0600 |
stays on whichever host holds it — see the constraint below |
| swarm-services sub-CA (cert + key) | swarm-ca.nix, signed by the root |
/var/lib/swarm-ca/services-ca{,-key}.pem |
issued where the root lives |
| authelia session, JWT and storage-encryption keys | authelia's first-boot unit, in-container | /var/lib/authelia-swarm/{session,jwt,storage-encryption}.key |
generated in place; nothing outside that container reads them |
| authelia OIDC HMAC key | same unit | /var/lib/authelia-swarm/oidc-hmac.key |
same |
| authelia OIDC issuer key (RSA) | same unit | /var/lib/authelia-swarm/oidc-issuer.key |
same — relying parties verify against the public half at /jwks.json |
| OIDC client secret, plaintext half | authelia crypto hash generate --random |
/var/lib/authelia-swarm/oidc-clients/<id>.secret |
operator provides the file and names it in the service's sso.clientSecretFile |
| OIDC client secret, digest half | the same mint | oidc-clients/<id>.digest |
authelia's own half; merged at runtime via settingsFiles |
| authelia subject store | swarmctl |
users.json (canonical) → users.yml (rendered) |
swarmctl, on the host that runs authelia |
| wireguard private key | the operator — wg genkey |
whatever swarm.wireguard.privateKeyFile names |
always operator-provided; nothing generates this for you |
The three keys authelia mints for itself are generated in-container precisely because nothing outside that container ever reads them. That is the test worth applying to any secret added here — and the client secret's plaintext half is the one row that fails it, which is the entire reason a delivery step exists.
Hive-level — one of each per hive
| secret | generated by | lives at |
|---|---|---|
| hive CA cert + key | hive-tls.nix first-boot unit |
<tls.stateDir>/ca.pem, ca-key.pem (0600) |
| hive leaf certs | hive-tls.nix, signed by the hive CA |
<tls.stateDir>/<name>.pem |
| matrix registration token | a host activation script, on first boot | /var/lib/hyperhive/matrix-register-token (0600) |
| the forge's copy of its OIDC secret | hive-forge-oidc-secret.service copies it from authelia's tree |
/var/lib/forgejo-oidc/<id>.secret inside the forge container |
| the homeserver's copy of its OIDC secret | hive-matrix-oidc-secret.service, same shape |
/var/lib/tuwunel-oidc/<id>.secret, handed to tuwunel through LoadCredential |
Both delivery units wait for authelia's first boot to mint the secret, with a bound, and fail loudly rather than skipping. A silent skip produces a service whose login button always fails — a symptom several layers from its cause.
The constraint that decides where the root lives
A hive CA carries nameConstraints=permitted;DNS:<hive domain>, and a swarm
service name is a sibling of the hive domain rather than a child — forge.<swarm>
next to <hive>.<swarm>. So a hive CA cannot issue a certificate for a swarm
service. Not by policy: by construction, and openssl enforces it.
Whatever holds the swarm root is therefore what makes swarm-service certificates possible at all. Two things follow:
- The root's private key is a runtime file and must never enter the nix
store, so nothing build-time can name it —
security.pki.certificateFilesis read when the system is built, and is the wrong tool here. Trust reaches containers through a bind-mounted bundle assembled at boot instead. - On any topology other than all-local, placing that key is an operations decision, not something this module tree makes for you. A hive that hosts no swarm services needs only the root's cert, to trust what others issue.
Adding a secret
State three things, in the row you add above: who mints it, which container reads it, and what happens when they differ. If they differ, it needs a delivery unit, and the unit copies — it does not bind.