diff --git a/docs/2-handbook/swarm/ui.md b/docs/2-handbook/swarm/ui.md
index 38eb0937..602b005b 100644
--- a/docs/2-handbook/swarm/ui.md
+++ b/docs/2-handbook/swarm/ui.md
@@ -322,6 +322,8 @@ when it fires next. **edit** turns the card into its own form; **pause** and
 list by name, agent or state (`active`, `paused`, or `past` for a one-shot
 whose time has passed). `past` is the controller's clock against the start time,
 not a record that an agent fired, so you can still pause a `past` schedule.
+While the schedules load for the first time, the card shows grey placeholder
+cards with the same layout as the real ones.
 
 A schedule repeats **every** some number of seconds, minutes, hours or days, or
 fires **once**. Its start time is the moment a one-shot fires, and the origin of
@@ -357,7 +359,8 @@ and **duplicate** buttons. **create flow**, at the top of the page beside the
 refresh interval, starts a custom flow with just a source. Creating and
 duplicating open the editor on a draft and make nothing: the flow exists once
 you **save** it there. Leaving the draft without saving, or discarding it, leaves
-the flows as they were.
+the flows as they were. While the flows and the recent deliveries load for
+the first time, the card shows grey placeholders of the same shape.
 
 A switch sends the whole flows document with the revision the page read, `0` if
 it read no document. The controller refuses the switch when the stored revision
diff --git a/frontend/packages/swarm-ui/src/pages/notifications/Deliveries.tsx b/frontend/packages/swarm-ui/src/pages/notifications/Deliveries.tsx
index 8be87289..91f51cf9 100644
--- a/frontend/packages/swarm-ui/src/pages/notifications/Deliveries.tsx
+++ b/frontend/packages/swarm-ui/src/pages/notifications/Deliveries.tsx
@@ -4,6 +4,7 @@
 import { EmptyState } from "../../ui/empty-state/EmptyState.js";
 import { RelativeTime } from "../../ui/relative-time/RelativeTime.js";
 import { Table, type TableColumn } from "../../ui/table/Table.js";
+import { TableSkeleton } from "../../ui/table/TableSkeleton.js";
 import { issueRef, outcomeText, type Delivery } from "./RouterLive.js";
 
 // A delivery with its place in the answer, which is what tells two identical rows
@@ -48,6 +49,11 @@ const COLUMNS: TableColumn<Row>[] = [
   },
 ];
 
+/** The table's twin while the deliveries load. */
+export function DeliveriesSkeleton() {
+  return <TableSkeleton columns={COLUMNS} label="the deliveries" />;
+}
+
 export function Deliveries({ rows }: { rows: Delivery[] }) {
   if (rows.length === 0) return <EmptyState>no deliveries yet</EmptyState>;
   const placed = rows.map((d, place) => ({ ...d, place }));
diff --git a/frontend/packages/swarm-ui/src/pages/notifications/FlowEditorPage.tsx b/frontend/packages/swarm-ui/src/pages/notifications/FlowEditorPage.tsx
index ae00bed4..262dd682 100644
--- a/frontend/packages/swarm-ui/src/pages/notifications/FlowEditorPage.tsx
+++ b/frontend/packages/swarm-ui/src/pages/notifications/FlowEditorPage.tsx
@@ -26,6 +26,7 @@ import { ActionRow } from "../../ui/action-row/ActionRow.js";
 import { ConfirmDialog } from "../../ui/confirm-dialog/ConfirmDialog.js";
 import { Hint } from "../../ui/hint/Hint.js";
 import { Panel } from "../../ui/panel/Panel.js";
+import { SkeletonLines } from "../../ui/skeleton/Skeleton.js";
 import { TextField } from "../../ui/text-field/TextField.js";
 import { fetchJson, ProblemError } from "../../ui/polled/usePolled.js";
 import { FlowCanvas } from "./FlowCanvas.js";
@@ -248,7 +249,7 @@ export function FlowEditorPage({
   if (!view) {
     return (
       <Panel title="notification flow" icon="🔔" actions={back}>
-        <p>loading…</p>
+        <SkeletonLines label="the flow" />
       </Panel>
     );
   }
diff --git a/frontend/packages/swarm-ui/src/pages/notifications/FlowListSkeleton.tsx b/frontend/packages/swarm-ui/src/pages/notifications/FlowListSkeleton.tsx
new file mode 100644
index 00000000..30f5f5b5
--- /dev/null
+++ b/frontend/packages/swarm-ui/src/pages/notifications/FlowListSkeleton.tsx
@@ -0,0 +1,30 @@
+// The twin of the flow cards for a list that is loading: the same card and
+// head layout (`notify-flow-head`), a placeholder for the name and the
+// buttons, and a block where the flow's graph goes. The list is in the
+// container the real one uses (`notify-flows`), so the gap is the same.
+import { Card } from "../../ui/card/Card.js";
+import { Skeleton, SkeletonRegion } from "../../ui/skeleton/Skeleton.js";
+
+function FlowCardSkeleton() {
+  return (
+    <Card>
+      <div class="notify-flow-head">
+        <Skeleton width="12em" class="notify-flow-name" />
+        <Skeleton width="9em" height="2.4em" />
+      </div>
+      <Skeleton shape="block" width="100%" height="6em" />
+    </Card>
+  );
+}
+
+export function FlowListSkeleton({ count = 3 }: { count?: number }) {
+  return (
+    <SkeletonRegion label="the flows">
+      <div class="notify-flows">
+        {Array.from({ length: count }, (_, i) => (
+          <FlowCardSkeleton key={i} />
+        ))}
+      </div>
+    </SkeletonRegion>
+  );
+}
diff --git a/frontend/packages/swarm-ui/src/pages/notifications/NotificationsPage.tsx b/frontend/packages/swarm-ui/src/pages/notifications/NotificationsPage.tsx
index fd05f07e..058d29ef 100644
--- a/frontend/packages/swarm-ui/src/pages/notifications/NotificationsPage.tsx
+++ b/frontend/packages/swarm-ui/src/pages/notifications/NotificationsPage.tsx
@@ -20,7 +20,8 @@ import {
   type RefreshIntervalMs,
 } from "../../ui/refresh-interval/RefreshInterval.js";
 import { fetchJson, usePolled } from "../../ui/polled/usePolled.js";
-import { Deliveries } from "./Deliveries.js";
+import { Deliveries, DeliveriesSkeleton } from "./Deliveries.js";
+import { FlowListSkeleton } from "./FlowListSkeleton.js";
 import { NEW_FLOW_PATH } from "./FlowDraft.js";
 import { FlowGraph } from "./FlowGraph.js";
 import { withBuiltin, type FlowsView } from "./FlowTypes.js";
@@ -124,7 +125,7 @@ export function NotificationRouter() {
           problem={actionError}
         />
       ) : null}
-      {!error && view === null ? <p>loading…</p> : null}
+      {!error && view === null ? <FlowListSkeleton /> : null}
       {view ? (
         <div class="notify-flows">
           {dryError ? (
@@ -191,7 +192,7 @@ export function NotificationRouter() {
           ) : deliveries ? (
             <Deliveries rows={deliveries.rows} />
           ) : (
-            <p>loading…</p>
+            <DeliveriesSkeleton />
           )}
         </div>
       ) : null}
diff --git a/frontend/packages/swarm-ui/src/pages/schedules/ScheduleCard.css b/frontend/packages/swarm-ui/src/pages/schedules/ScheduleCard.css
index 62ab4d96..42dcd0c8 100644
--- a/frontend/packages/swarm-ui/src/pages/schedules/ScheduleCard.css
+++ b/frontend/packages/swarm-ui/src/pages/schedules/ScheduleCard.css
@@ -31,3 +31,19 @@
 .ui-schedule-card-actions {
   gap: 0.5em;
 }
+/* The loading twin's list: the gap between cards in the real list. */
+.ui-schedule-card-list {
+  display: flex;
+  flex-direction: column;
+  gap: 0.5em;
+}
+/* The loading twin's rows take the height of a line of text, and its head the
+   height of the title, so the card is the size of a real one. */
+.ui-schedule-card-head-skeleton {
+  min-height: 1.76em;
+}
+.ui-schedule-card-line {
+  display: flex;
+  align-items: center;
+  min-height: 1.6em;
+}
diff --git a/frontend/packages/swarm-ui/src/pages/schedules/ScheduleCard.tsx b/frontend/packages/swarm-ui/src/pages/schedules/ScheduleCard.tsx
index 31f3c22f..7ee321e5 100644
--- a/frontend/packages/swarm-ui/src/pages/schedules/ScheduleCard.tsx
+++ b/frontend/packages/swarm-ui/src/pages/schedules/ScheduleCard.tsx
@@ -7,6 +7,7 @@ import { ActionRow } from "../../ui/action-row/ActionRow.js";
 import { Button } from "../../ui/button/Button.js";
 import { Card } from "../../ui/card/Card.js";
 import { RelativeTime } from "../../ui/relative-time/RelativeTime.js";
+import { Skeleton, SkeletonRegion } from "../../ui/skeleton/Skeleton.js";
 import {
   fmtInterval,
   fmtLocal,
@@ -87,3 +88,49 @@ export function ScheduleCard({
     </Card>
   );
 }
+
+// The twin of `ScheduleCard` for a list that is loading: the same card and
+// layout classes, with a placeholder in each slot. The cards sit in the
+// container the real list uses, so the gap between them is the same.
+function ScheduleCardSkeleton() {
+  return (
+    <div>
+      <Card class="ui-schedule-card">
+        <div class="ui-schedule-card-head ui-schedule-card-head-skeleton">
+          <Skeleton width="10em" height="1.2em" class="ui-schedule-card-name" />
+          <Skeleton width="4em" height="1.6em" />
+          <Skeleton width="6em" height="1.6em" />
+        </div>
+        <div class="ui-schedule-card-line">
+          <Skeleton width="14em" />
+        </div>
+        <div class="ui-schedule-card-line">
+          <Skeleton width="90%" />
+        </div>
+        <div class="ui-schedule-card-line">
+          <Skeleton width="60%" />
+        </div>
+        <div class="ui-schedule-card-line">
+          <Skeleton width="12em" />
+        </div>
+        <ActionRow align="end" class="ui-schedule-card-actions">
+          <Skeleton width="4em" height="2.75em" />
+          <Skeleton width="4.5em" height="2.75em" />
+          <Skeleton width="5em" height="2.75em" />
+        </ActionRow>
+      </Card>
+    </div>
+  );
+}
+
+export function ScheduleListSkeleton({ count = 3 }: { count?: number }) {
+  return (
+    <SkeletonRegion label="the schedules">
+      <div class="ui-schedule-card-list">
+        {Array.from({ length: count }, (_, i) => (
+          <ScheduleCardSkeleton key={i} />
+        ))}
+      </div>
+    </SkeletonRegion>
+  );
+}
diff --git a/frontend/packages/swarm-ui/src/pages/schedules/SchedulesPage.tsx b/frontend/packages/swarm-ui/src/pages/schedules/SchedulesPage.tsx
index 86cf3c3d..2a4f3aa4 100644
--- a/frontend/packages/swarm-ui/src/pages/schedules/SchedulesPage.tsx
+++ b/frontend/packages/swarm-ui/src/pages/schedules/SchedulesPage.tsx
@@ -24,7 +24,7 @@ import {
 import { fetchJson, usePolled } from "../../ui/polled/usePolled.js";
 import type { TableColumn } from "../../ui/table/Table.js";
 import type { AgentRow } from "../../agent/AgentTypes.js";
-import { ScheduleCard } from "./ScheduleCard.js";
+import { ScheduleCard, ScheduleListSkeleton } from "./ScheduleCard.js";
 import { agentNamesFrom, agentOptionsFor } from "./agent-options.js";
 import { ScheduleForm } from "./ScheduleForm.js";
 import { scheduleState, type Schedule } from "./ScheduleTypes.js";
@@ -184,7 +184,7 @@ function SchedulesBody() {
           onCancel={() => setCreating(false)}
         />
       ) : null}
-      {!error && schedules === null ? <p>loading…</p> : null}
+      {!error && schedules === null ? <ScheduleListSkeleton /> : null}
       {schedules ? (
         <FilterableView
           columns={COLUMNS}